Re: TFS 2005 to TFS 2008 upgrade

Scrum for Team System - v1.x Support

TFS 2005 to TFS 2008 upgrade

Sergey Ermakov 01-24-2008, 6:28 PM
Hi Gents,

Can you please explain, how to upgrade TFS 2005 with Scrup template 1.xx to the TFS 2008 ?

We upgraded TFS to TFS 2008 without WSS3.0 by Microsoft documentations.
At the moment all Scrum WSS 2.0 sites are not working.

When you try to open tfs site like http://tfs/sites/scrum_project, I've got the error:

Error

Cannot complete this action.

Please try again.

Troubleshoot issues with Windows SharePoint Services.

Any comments and how to fix that ?

We tried to deinstall 1.xx and install 2.0, but it doesn't help.

Re: TFS 2005 to TFS 2008 upgrade

Crispin Parker 01-25-2008, 11:23 AM
Hi Sergey,

FYI, the ScrumforTeamSystem v2 requires WSS 3 in order to run. So the portal will not be available if you have WSS 2 installed.

In answer to your 1.2 to 2.0 migration question, I'll post a previous response from Stuart Preston to this same question:

Our migration story isn’t great I’m afraid from 2005 to 2008 by the restrictions in the platform (caused by design decisions to support various rules around auditing and compliance). As you are probably aware, the TFS API is restricted to only writing events in the current tense. That is to say that you cannot write a work item using the API with a “System.CreatedDate” or “System.ModifiedDate” in the past. This would in fact cause reports from past Sprints to all appear on the day of migration and hence the velocity for burndowns could not be calculated correctly. The migration utility we wrote for v1.2 actually directly wrote to the database to “fix” the dates retrospectively, however we have been warned off this approach with TFS 2008 and as a result will not be providing an equivalent utility to migrate between platforms.

We took a different technical approach in v2.0 – we have reduced our dependency on System dates for the template, queries and reports – we now use our own custom date fields so that if using a migration tool in future, the correct dates will always be preserved.

Also FYI we do not provide a utility that will migrate the Project Portal from WSS 2.0 to WSS 3.0. We’ve also prevented the coexistence of Scrum for Team System v1.2 and v2.0 on the same machine.

Our recommendations are:

- As Scrum for Team System v1.2 contains binary components that use the TFS 2005 API – we recommend uninstalling Scrum for Team System v1.2 prior to upgrading to TFS 2008.
- We recommend that you install WSS 3.0 as part of your upgrade (this is a requirement for Scrum for Team System v2.0).
- Then once TFS 2008 is installed with Team Explorer 2008, Scrum for Team System v2.0 can be installed.
- At this point in time you will have one or more v1.2 projects that will continue to function with the exception that the Work Remaining will not be synchronised between Sprint Backlog Items and Product Backlog Items.
- To take advantage of the new features of v2.0 you will need to create a new project (an ideal point would be after a release).

We have started on an internal tool that can move certain types of work items via an intermediate format (XML document), that runs through a translation of work items from the 1.2 style to the 2.0 style – then allows import to the new project. This tool has not got far beyond prototype stage (we use it as part of our integration testing of 2.0) and would need its own stream of work and funding to develop into something into something that could be ready for production migration). This could be something that Conchango would be willing to develop in return for a fee – do let me know if this is of interest to you.

Regards,

Crispin Parker,
Technical Consultant,
Conchango.

"It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness"

Re: TFS 2005 to TFS 2008 upgrade

Sergey Ermakov 01-29-2008, 12:53 PM
Hi Crispin,

Thanks you for the answer.
We tried to do the upgrade again by your recomendations.

1. We uninstalled Scrum 1.2
2. Did upgrade to TFS 2008
3. Tried to upgrade to WSS 3.0 with sp1.

WSS 3.0 requires to run prescan tool.
Prescan tool found some errrors:

1/28/2008 20:10:30 Querying SPSite quota and locks on 530cbed4-ac4f-4201-a107-01a12f3aeafc
01/28/2008 20:10:30 Scanning SPWeb: http://msktfsw02/sites/ARRM
01/28/2008 20:10:30 Error: Web is using a custom template (id = "10719") which can not be located on the web front end.
01/28/2008 20:10:30 Querying SPSite quota and locks on c87550f2-26ac-4d56-bbc2-c15c79def342
01/28/2008 20:10:30 Scanning SPWeb: http://msktfsw02/sites/Avalanche
01/28/2008 20:10:30 Error: Web is using a custom template (id = "10719") which can not be located on the web front end.
01/28/2008 20:10:30 Querying SPSite quota and locks on f6dd53dd-21f5-4129-9299-780d2d6db945
01/28/2008 20:10:30 Scanning SPWeb: http://msktfsw02/sites/Brutus
01/28/2008 20:10:30 Error: Web is using a custom template (id = "10719") which can not be located on the web front end.
01/28/2008 20:10:30 Querying SPSite quota and locks on 86ef873d-f9aa-466b-9cc3-fbe375d17913

[skip]

1/28/2008 20:10:43 Number of sites skipped (already scanned): 0
01/28/2008 20:10:43 Number of sites scanned: 47
01/28/2008 20:10:43 Number of broken sites: 7 (14.89% of total).
01/28/2008 20:10:43 Number of webs scanned: 51
01/28/2008 20:10:43 Number of broken webs: 7 (13.73% of total).
01/28/2008 20:10:43 Number of webs using custom template: 7 (13.73% of total).
01/28/2008 20:10:43 Number of pages scanned: 4163
01/28/2008 20:10:43 Number of unghosted pages: 39 (0.94% of total).

Only Scrum sites have these errors.

Setup installed all binaries files.
Sharepoint configuration wizard stopped to do the upgrade and asked to fix the errors in the prescan log.

How to resolve issues with Scrum sites ?
Can you please check this upgrade procedure ?

Thanks in advance.

Re: TFS 2005 to TFS 2008 upgrade

Alex Vaccaro 02-07-2008, 1:57 PM

Hi Crispin,

I understand that the official migration policy is to create a new project based on the new template and then copy items across from the existing project, however this might not be practical in my situation. From what you said the only thing that will be affected in the existing v1.2 project after migration to TFS2008 is that work remaining will not be automatically synchronised between PBIs and SBIs. Would ScrumConsistencyCheck tool developed by Conchango update the work remaining even if the template files have been removed? If not, would it be possible for Conchango to open up the source for the v1.2 template so that the community can try and address the problem of making v1.2 work with TFS 2008?

Regards,
Alex

Re: TFS 2005 to TFS 2008 upgrade

S C Potter 02-11-2008, 10:40 PM
Sergey / Crispin -

This is the same upgrade path we went down and we had the same errors when we went to upgrade WSS 2.0 to 3.0. The issue seems to be with the WSS custom template that is part of scrum 1.2 (or not)?

I hadn't seen a post in these forums with a good solution to this, but we were in a position to be able to delete the site collection (under Central Administration - Virtual Server Configuration) for the two sites. This worked for us, but I'm hopeful that a better solution is found for other upgraders.

That said, we love the template and appreciate it's availablilty. Our thanks to everyone who has contributed to the template.

Cheers-
Scott

Re: TFS 2005 to TFS 2008 upgrade

JonBrasted 09-26-2008, 4:30 PM
I have just upgraded to Sharepoint v2 and I get the same prescan errors: "Error: Web is using a custom template (id = "10719") which can not be located on the web front end."

Crispin Parker wrote:
... - Then once TFS 2008 is installed with Team Explorer 2008, Scrum for Team System v2.0 can be installed. - At this point in time you will have one or more v1.2 projects that will continue to function with the exception that the Work Remaining will not be synchronised ...

My sites do not work anymore. I just get this error:

[COMException (0x80004005): Cannot complete this action.

Is there a way to hack the SfTFS v2 Template ID and set it to 10719?

Thanks.
Jon

Re: TFS 2005 to TFS 2008 upgrade

Crispin Parker 09-26-2008, 4:48 PM
Did you try what I suggested in my answer to your last post?

Crispin.

"It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness"

Re: TFS 2005 to TFS 2008 upgrade

tikotal 12-11-2008, 2:29 PM
Crispin,
How about the migration tool you had mentioned? Can one export a 1.2 project and
import it into a 2.1/2.2 based project?

-Tal